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About Japan and God and Lilita

As ev­ery­one knows, there was a big quake in Japan, then a Tsunami, then a vol­cano erupt­ed, then a nu­cle­ar plant caught fire. All things con­sid­ered, a re­al­ly crap­py week.

Then again, if I were ja­pa­nese and I had to read id­iots telling me this was be­cause god is pu­bish­ing me be­cause of (what­ev­er the id­iot does­n't like about Japan), I would be sore­ly tempt­ed to find the mo­rons and ... ok, con­sid­er­ing the ja­pa­nese are show­ing they are very rea­son­able peo­ple, prob­a­bly just tell him some­thing po­lite­ly.

OTO­H, I am not ja­pa­nese. Which means I can ex­plain in great de­tail why those who say "maybe it's <what­ev­er> pun­ish­ing | telling japan <some­thing>" are a com­plete waste of oxy­gen.

I will fo­cus on one ex­am­ple, be­cause it's a very spe­cial re­li­gious mo­ron: a pres­i­den­tial can­di­date in Ar­genti­na, called Lili­ta Car­rió.

Here's what she said (s­pan­ish is the orig­i­nal, of course):

"Dios nos es­tá di­cien­do que debe­mos cuidar el plan­e­ta, que no sig­amos de­struyen­do la tier­ra, que vi­va­mos en la ver­dad, en la de­cen­ci­a, en la jus­ti­ci­a, que no use­mos la tec­nología, aunque sea de man­era pací­fi­ca. Hay que leer los sig­nos de los tiem­pos"

"God is telling us that we should take care of the plan­et, that we should stop de­stroy­ing the earth, that we should live in truth, in de­cen­cy, in jus­tice, and stop us­ing tech­nol­o­gy, even if it's peace­ful­ly. We should read the sign of the times".

Let's con­sid­er that lit­tle by lit­tle.

"God is telling us that we should take care of the plan­et"

I must con­fess I am amazed that an almight­ly be­ing is less ca­pa­ble of com­mu­ni­cat­ing ideas than my 3.9 year old kid. When he wants me to play bal­l, he brings the ball and tells me "Dad, let's play bal­l".

On the oth­er hand, god ap­par­ent­ly, to tell us to stop us­ing tech­nol­o­gy, caus­es a se­ries of cat­a­stroph­ic events in the oth­er end of the world, then brings us the news over the In­ter­net (a tech­no­log­i­cal mir­a­cle), so that Lili­ta can di­vine god's in­ten­tions and then re-broad­cast them to us over the ra­dio (of course, an er­ar­li­er tech­no­log­i­cal mir­a­cle).

Now, does that make sense to any­one? I mean, why does­n't god just, you know, say what he means in a rea­son­able man­ner? Be­cause for re­li­gious peo­ple, the fun is in the div­ina­tion. They are act­ing like ro­man priests di­vin­ing the fu­ture in the en­trails of an an­i­mal, ex­cept they are us­ing the life and suf­fer­ing of peo­ple.

Oh, look, suf­fer­ing in Japan, that means we should stop us­ing the Wi­i!

Not on­ly is that ap­proach com­plete­ly against ev­ery­thing chris­tian doc­trine teach­es, from with the virtue of char­i­ty (if god did it to tell us some­thing, by def­i­ni­tion they de­served it!) to the in­junc­tion against di­vin­ing god's mes­sages in por­tents (yes, it is for­bid­den, go ask a priest).

"[­God is telling us] that we should stop de­stroy­ing the earth"

Oh, gee, ok then! OTO­H, maybe a more sub­tle way than half-break­ing ev­ery­thing in a whole coun­try to let us know next time? Please?

"[­God is telling us] that we should live in truth"

Ok, yes, let's do that. I will start by not be­liev­ing in god, who tru­ly does not ex­ist. When you catch up to that we'll ar­gue some more, ok?

"[­God is telling us to] stop us­ing tech­nol­o­gy, even if it's peace­ful­ly."

I would love if this pres­i­den­tial can­di­date did­n't use tech­nol­o­gy be­cause it would mean I would not have to see her sanc­ti­mo­nious stu­pid­i­ty ev­er again. OTO­H, if we would­n't have tech­nol­o­gy, we would prob­a­bly not know about the earth­quake yet. I sup­pose she may have been say­ing "nu­cle­ar tech­nol­o­gy" and this is out of con­tex­t.

OTO­H, num­ber of peo­ple killed by peace­ful nu­cle­ar tech­nol­o­gy since 1950: 1000? 10000?

num­ber of peo­ple killed by earth­quakes and tsuna­mi in the last 5 years: 100000? 200000?

Yes, those are num­bers I just made up, but I am bet­ting they are more right than wrong, so, ba­si­cal­ly, god has killed more peo­ple this week telling us not to use nu­cle­ar pow­er, than nu­cle­ar pow­er has killed in the last 50 years. Not ex­act­ly good com­mu­ni­ca­tion skill­s.

"We should read the sign of the times"

Ok, here it is:

The New York Times

Don't vote for this blither­ing id­iot. She's dan­ger­ous, and prob­a­bly men­tal­ly il­l.

Tomas Zulberti / 2011-03-18 19:10:

Te olvidas que dios ya indundo todo el mundo para poder empezar de nuevo. Si, este dios no da señales muy claras que diagamos....

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Roberto Alsina / 2011-03-18 19:16:

Eso del diluvio fue el "no vale, pido gancho" mas forro de la historia.

Guilherme / 2011-03-18 19:29:

God is telling us to stop destroying the world by... destroying the world Himself! Makes sense right!

Fernando Sisul / 2011-03-19 16:53:

God doesnt destroy the world, just some cities and kills bunchs of people.

Its the Sodoma and Gomorra behaviour, why are we so amazed right now?

Roberto Alsina / 2011-03-19 17:10:

Well, it would mean there are not 10 good men in the city and that everyone else there will die, but maybe the old guy has lots precision.

Maxi / 2011-03-18 19:37:

Es una opinión bastante Pelotuda (sí, con mayúsculas) lo que parece que dijo «Lilita».
¿Cómo carajo llega una persona así a donde está? ¿Es responsabilidad nuestra?

Roberto Alsina / 2011-03-18 19:46:

Es culpa de los que la votaron. Yo la voté una vez, lo que demuestra que soy razonablemente pelotudo.

Lisandro Pérez Meyer / 2011-03-18 21:41:

Lo más cómico es que los japoneses son los mas lejanos a pensar que es algún tipo de castigo.

Roberto Alsina / 2011-03-19 00:34:

O a creer en algo que Lilita reconocería como dios.

emegeve / 2011-03-19 02:18:

We are not worthy! We are not worthy! (Wayne's world). En serio. Me saco el sombrero.

patricio / 2011-03-19 13:15:

Lo que pasa es que Lilita tiene la sangre en el ojo. Viene pronosticando apocalipsis por todos lados y no predijo éste. Se le escapó la tortuga...

Roberto Alsina / 2011-03-19 17:11:

Me acuerdo un economista que decía que un determinado indicador había pronosticado 20 de las últimas 13 recesiones :-)

Santiago Cabezas / 2011-03-19 15:08:

Muy bueno Don Alsina... Lo tenía en "to read later" este artículo, y valió la pena dedicarle el tiempito.
Como dije por Twitter, me preocupa que esta gente pueda llegar al poder. O sea, la gente es tan pelotuda que seguro vota, si no es a esta a otra más pelotuda aun.

Leo Molas / 2011-03-19 15:14:

Otra cosa es que si fuera por la tecnología, Haití ahora debería estar joya.

Fernando Sisul / 2011-03-19 16:01:

Entonces lo que Dios nos dice es que la violencia (y no cualquier tipo de violencia, sino el mejor tipo, la masacre y muerte de mucha gente) es la respuesta a todos nuestros problemas.
Es muy claro, si para que dejemos de contaminar mata 100.000 personas, entonces para que dejen de robar, tendriamos que matar a unos cuantos... por poner un ejemplo

Paul21 / 2011-03-28 00:24:

I'd like to hear the original audio though...

Angelus_ira / 2011-04-11 16:46:

Siempre leo el post por los excelentes artículos sobre Python, pero esto debería merecer un premio. No puedo creer lo que "Lilita" dijo, opina solo porque está lejos del hecho y es más fácil hablar y hacer política que trabajar en hechos. Con lo de Haití todo el mundo mando ayuda, con japón todos sacaron a sus habitantes del lugar.
Es fácil usar el nombre de Dios para "justificar" hechos, justamente porque Él no va a salir a decir que el piensa eso o no.
"Lilita" debe tener delirio místico, si una persona así fuese presidente, no sería raro que haga guerras porque "el de arriba" le susurra al oído.
Sobre si Dios existe o no, eso en mi parecer queda a merced de cada persona en particular. Creer en algo es un derecho, al menos por ahora XD

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Well, the write-up is truly the freshest on this laudable topic.